It was wrong that Liesel and the gang stole from people. Liesel and the others stole apples, chestnuts, and -she herself stole- books. These stolen objects could have been the owner's source of food or money. For example, the farmer that Liesel and the gang stole the apples from could have used the fruit to earn enough money in order to buy food or other necessities. The group could potentially be taking others wealth and nutrients. All of the objects stolen would have helped their owners in one way or another leaving Liesel and the gang wrong for stealing them. Liesel and the gang were wrong in stealing others belongings.
If you were Liesel would you want to be eating one bowl of pea soup once a day? Im sure if you were trying to survive you would be wanting to do anything to stay alive.
She could have survived off the pea soup just like Hans and Rosa who didn't feel like it was necessary to steal others things. Liesel can also be seen as lucky with the amount of food she is given considering the German's poverty during World War II. Focusing on that the other Germans did not steal even though they had less food than she did.
She was never in desperate need of food. The Hubermanns were able to provide her what was needed to survive. Sure, eating pea soup once a day is not ideal for anyone but at the time, the majority of families were struggling as well. It was the era they were growing up in. Times were rough but Liesel should have lived off of what she had. There was no reason to steal.
It is hard for Liesel to live off pea soup everyday but what about the farmer she stole from? Maybe he was struggling to survive as well and needed to sell his apples for food for his family. Sure its only six apples that she took but if everybody took six apples there would be no more apples and then the farmer would have nothing.
If I were Liesel, I would deal with it. No one else is better off than she is, everyone has the same rationing based on age, occupation, and such. They are all in the same situation, just because you are trying to survive does not mean it is right to steal from others who are also trying to survive. It is same as saying you are trying to survive by killing others, because you have no idea of how the others are fairing, are they starving? Are they eating three square meals a day? Why is it right to steal from people when you have no clue if the people you stole from were starving or not? Also, just because they live on a farm does not mean they have enough to eat. If they do not make a profit out of the produce then they will not be able to afford food.
The farmer worked hard to grow the apples and they should be his. Money was very tight for everyone in Germany, and every apple can make a big difference to the farmer. Also Liesel did not only steal six apples. It happened on many occasions. 'I stole at least three hundred apples and dozens of potatoes’ (Zusak 273).
I am sure that everybody can agree that stealing is not the right thing to do, but in this case when Liesel needs food other than one bowl of pea soup once a day its probably a good thing, she is trying to survive. If you were to be in Liesels shoes you would probably do the same thing to not starve. For example when the farmer caugth Rudy stealing he obviously was upset and mad that he was stealing from his farm but when he was told he was not well nourished he did feel bad and was why he did not get him in trouble. The debate did get into a heavy arguement about how if this were to keep happening, the farmers produce would go to waste and he would lose money, then everybody would start taking food from the farmer but not everyone from that town is starving and just trying to survive.
Of course it's right if it is in terms of survival. It would only be wrong if they were already rich in food and nessecities, which they are not. People search for happiness and happiness can not be found in a cup of pea soup a day.
That does make sense, however; what about the rest of the town? The entire nation is hungry, not just Liesel and her gang. What gives them the right to take food that does not belong to them? If it is not a problem for them to do it, why would it be bad for everyone to start stealing? Clearly, it would start even more chaos than what is already occurring. Stealing is stealing, no matter what the circumstances, it is not right. Also, food rationing played a big role in this time therefore no one was what you could call rich in food and necessities. Liesel and her gang are not stealing in terms of survival. Liesel in particular would survive (and has been surviving) just fine without her unnecessary stealing. Rosa and Hans are able to survive just fine with the same amount of food as Liesel without complaint or the urge to steal. Sure you are right, people search for happiness but since when does happiness come from stealing and how rich you are in food?
It is not right in terms of survival. It is something you must do in terms of survival, but there is a difference between something that is right and something that you must do, and it is a huge difference. You state that people search for happiness, but does that make it right to steal that happiness from others? How could stealing only a few fruits steal someone's happiness? Over time it adds to a large amount and over time it slowly crumples the happiness of those whom Liesel and her gang are stealing from. You see this from Liesel point of view, you are not thinking about the other side, about the ones that are being stolen from. They are not happy. Why does Liesel and the gang deserve this happiness more?
It was not right for Liesel and the gang to steal from people because taking something from someone who has worked hard to get it is not fair to that person. For example, when the Liesel and the gang stole apples from the farmer, they were taking his food and what he was selling to get money or other necessities for himself. They could have tried to earn food for themselves instead of wasting the farmer's hard work and if that did not work they had enough sustenance to survive without the apples. When Liesel and the gang stole it was wrong.
When Liesel stole from the farmers she was starving; she was not getting enough food at home and had no way to earn her own food or even money for food. They were in Nazi Germany with rationing going on and no way for a twelve year old to earn her own food. It wasn't like Liesel and the gang were stealing for pleasure, they were stealing because they had nothing else to eat and no where else to try and get food from.
Everyone was hungry. Why are they so special they get more food than everyone else? No one is getting an ideal amount of food. How do we know Liesel was not stealing for pleasure, she stole books for her own pleasure, why would it be different for food? Hungry or not stealing is not the right thing and being hungry does not give her the right to take something that does not belong to her. The farmer is also most likely hungry. The gang taking apples also affects how much food the farmer, and the farmers customers are eating as well.
I don’t think that stealing is right in the least bit but when you are malnourished, which the book says that she is, I think that you have to do what you need to stay alive. I agree with Alessa when she says how are children suppose to find ways of getting food? I don’t think for most people today can ever say what it is like to eat the same thing every night for dinner because there is nothing else to eat. I understand how it would seem wrong to steal from another person but when it comes to your own survival I think you need to do what you have to.
I agree, however you need to remember it is not just them that are hungry. If everyone that was hungry during these times stole, everything would be without a doubt; a disaster. It becomes unfair because they are then getting more food than other people that are potentially more hungry than they are.
There was a lot of debate over this topic, I think though it is not right to steal in the situation Liesel is in it was necessary. During the debate a point was made that after the gang stole something Liesel would eat her share without giving it to her family, but if there is more food in her stomach she won't need more so during supper more can be given to her other family members. Another point that was brought up was if Hans and Rosa can survive off of pea soup every day she should too, but they are not a growing child they do not need the same amount of good food and nutrition as she does. I do not see any possible way that she could have gotten the food she needed without stealing. Even with the food rations there was not enough food because they had to feed Max. I do not think stealing is okay but I do believe that people have to do what they need to survive.
I agree with the point about there being more food for the rest of the family with Liesel stealing, but if Liesel were to share with her family, they would all get the same amount of food. There is still no reason why she should not tell Rosa and Hans about what she is doing. By telling her parents, they could give her alternatives, besides stealing, to get extra money for more food. She could do things such as do chores for the farmers in exchange for food.
I completely agree that there is not enough food, but there is food, that is a huge point. There is food in her house, even if it is a small amount. She might be malnourished but that does not make it right. The question is if it is right, not if she must do it, or why she did it. It is wrong no matter which way you look at it. Even if you claim, she is doing it for survival, that makes to different to if it is right or wrong, it is stealing. If you look at it from Liesel's point of view, of course it is right to you. But if you consider the farmer, whom lost at least three hundred apples to only Liesel in one year, think of that multiplied by how many members were a part of the group. Or Vincent the new chief who is doing it for fun. Stealing is not right, no matter how you put it. People will kill to survive, but is that right?
This topic was debated very well and both sides made very good points, but I believe it was not right that Liesel and the gang stole. Stealing is against the law and in the lives of Liesel and the gang, stealing was not necessary. They all had enough food to get by before and by taking the food of the farmers, it makes it harder for them to survive. Farmers use the food they produce to sell to make money to care for them and their family. By Liesel and the gang stealing from the farmers, it makes it harder for them to get by. During the debate the argument was made that Liesel ate many apples, without sharing with her family members, and then vomited and how this shows that she did not need all of the food. I agree with this argument and believe that by Liesel not telling Rosa when she was vomiting from the apples, it shows that Liesel knew it was wrong and decided not to say anything so she would not get caught. Also, when Liesel and Rudy go to steal with Victor Chemmel, the new leader of the gang, it says in the book, “What greeted them was a shock. The trees they’d imagined to be swollen with fruit were frail and injured- looking, with only a small array of apples hanging miserly from each branch.”(Zusak275). This shows that the farmers barely had any crops and by them taking the apples, it makes it harder for the farmers. With little food and little money, it makes it harder for the farmers to survive and especially if Liesel and the gang steal their food. With stealing against the law, if caught, Liesel and the gang could be punished and this could make Liesel and her family more susceptible to their house being checked and Max could be found, if this were to have happen while he was still living with them. None the less, Liesel and the gang could be caught and receive large and severe punishments. This proves that it is wrong for Liesel and the gang to steal because not only is it dangerous, but it is also not necessary.
It is right for Liesel and the gang to steal from anyone. Liesel is very obsessed and proud of breaking the law and her company seems so as well, they may be hungry, but it is obvious that stealing gives them a thrill, especially Liesel. And although they are hungry that does not mean it is in anyway right to steal. Stealing is prohibited for a reason and it is not just for them to be able to steal and get away with it. Not only is it against the law, but it is very unfair from whomever they stole from. A lot was said about the amount that had been stolen, saying it was a bare minimum of roughly six per person, yet Liesel claimed so proudly: "'Last year,' she listed, 'I stole at least three hundred apples and dozens of potatoes. I have little trouble with barbed wire fences and I can keep up with anyone here" (Zusak273). Clearly Liesel and her gang had stolen more than a small amount. It is unfair to the farmer as he must grow the apples to sell for an income to provide for himself, and perhaps a family. Another point that was brought up was it was for survival, but that does not mean that stealing is right. Survival is a key factor to think about, but the question was if it was right, and even if you are stealing to keep yourself alive it does not change the fact that stealing is wrong and selfish.
It is wrong for Liesel and the gang to steal. They should be punished for that because they broke the law. It does not matter what the circumstances were, stealing is still a horrible thing. It also affects the life of the farmer, from her being greedy and breaking the law, it could also be making the life of someone else more horrible. Everybody during that time was starving and did not have as much food as they would have liked, that does not mean that everybody should go out and steal from someone else who could also be struggling. Also it makes it even worse how she steals but she does not even have the decency to even share with her family. She receives just as much food as the rest of her family, so if she was starving that much I am sure the rest of her family was also. The least she could have done was share some of the food with her family. But as we all know she does not, proving that if the rest of her family could survive with that amount of food, so could she. Stealing is never the right thing to do.
In Nazi Germany, The Nazis Stole the Jewish, Blacks, and Homosexuals Money,silverware, gold, and gems. When the government is Stealing, the concept of theft wouldn't look that bad in the eyes of an eleven year old misguided power hungry Girl.
It is not right to steal from anyone. But, in that case it is right because she needed the food more than anyone else that could have bought the food. There are serious consequences for stealing if she would have been caught, especially since they are in Nazi Germany the consequences would be more serious. The gang should steal less often so that there would be less suspicion on them that they are stealing. If someone needed food that badly to have to steal to get it then it is morally right.